Posted by PatK on July 23, 2101 at 22:28:51:

In Reply to: Breaking the covenant posted by Martin on July 20, 2101 at 21:19:39:

Allahu Abha et Saluton,

:ML: According to the Will and Testament of 'Abdu'l-Baha, in order to get this title, one has to oppose the guardian of the
Baha'i Faith.
_My object is to show that the Hands of the Cause of God must be ever watchful and so soon as they find anyone
be ginning to oppose and protest against the guardian of the Cause of God cast him out from the congregation of the
people of Bahá and in no wise accept any excuse from him._

PK: Being expelled as a Covenant Breaker by the Hands of the Cause, as you describe, is one way. Certainly Muhammad Ali was declared a Covenant Breaker for opposing the leadership of the day - 'Abdu'l Baha, rather than the Guardian.

PK: Those who claimed the Guardianship w/o being appointed to it IAW the "Will and Testament" of 'Abdu'l Baha, also exposed themselves to expulsion by the same Hands who would assent to an appointment of a successor.

PK: The Universal House of Justice was deprived of a Guardian by death. Shoghi Effendi died w/o appointing a successor IAW every clause of the "Will and Testament". It may be hard for some to accept, but that was the expert opinion of Mason Remey, among the other Hands of the Cause at the time. After more than 40 years, I hope you can accept this.

Blessings!
- Pat
kohli@ameritel.net

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