Posted by Stuart Gilman (65.94.254.22) on October 11, 2002 at 06:59:25:

In Reply to: Re: Anyone who waits for proof of God is lost. posted by Misagh on October 10, 2002 at 20:16:28:

Misagh, you may have noticed that I, too, have a pseudo-mathematical "proof" of God's existence, where I mention that when the probability of an event = 0, and the event is "real", we have direct or indirect proof of an unknown, unseen and unmeasured power that we may call God.

However, if I NEEDED this argument - highly elaborated of course - to permit me to believe in God, I would be lost. Using mathematical or eco-biological theories to pursue God has an entertaining and acceptable place in Faith, but, again, if one were to rely on any logical theory to lead to a "proof of the existence of God" it is a declaration of unfaith and unbelief. That soul is lost. More importantly:

The use of a scientific approach to God's existence only allows genuine, sceptical scientists to be convinced that the idea of God is nonsense, since all and any scientific "proofs of God" cannot be proven. So, while I do accept the attempt to empirically prove God's existence, those doing so publicly, risk losing the hearts and minds of "real" scientists, whose way to God will not be by science, but by revelation, meditation and faith without a mathematical foundation.

STUART

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